Episode 37 - That's The Way It Will Be

Walt Disney’s stalemate with Charles Mintz over the future distribution of his Alice comedies was still unresolved. Despite this, Walt and Roy forged ahead with several key changes at the studio. There would be new places, new faces and new names in the world of Walt. Some of these changes were by choice, and others by necessity. Join the discussion on all of this and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Walt and Roy Disney with the “new” Alice, Margie Gay. 1926


Episode 36 - Tensions Rise

Having returned home from his wedding and honeymoon with his new bride Lillian, Walt turned his focus back to his work. The Alice films were beginning to garner national attention, and Charles Mintz would attempt to use this as leverage against Walt Disney to negotiate more favorable terms in their next contract. Tensions between the two men would begin to rise and Walt would be forced to make a number of important decisions regarding the future of his beloved film series.

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Walt Disney (left) directs Virginia Davis as Roy Disney (right) operates the camera.


Episode 35 - Walt and Lillian

As Walt Disney continued to expand his studio staff, he hired several young ladies to work as ink and painters. Although Walt did not chase women, he did start to catch the eye of one of these young ladies in particular. Her name was Lillian Bounds, and as Roy and Edna finally tied the knot, Walt and Lillian served as best man and maid of honer respectively. Walt's first love was always animation, but he began making room in his heart for Lillian. All this and more on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Walt and Lillian, 1925


Episode 34 - Meet Charles Mintz

Walt Disney's relationship with his distributor Margaret Winkler was going well. Both of their visions for the future of the Alice series were generally aligned with one another. Somewhat unexpectedly however, Walt found himself dealing with a new distributor all together. With a new distributor came a new contract. With a new contract came an expanded staff and with an expanded staff came more of Walt's Laugh-O-Gram buddies. Hear all this and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Charles Mintz


Episode 33 - The Cat

With the first Alice films now finished and well received by the public, Walt Disney and Margaret Winkler decided to speed up production on the films and produce not 1, but 2 films per month. This meant an increase in workload for the already understaffed Disney Bros. Studio. For weeks Walt had been corresponding with old friend Ub Iwerks in hopes of luring him to California. Will Ub join Walt in Hollywood or pass on the opportunity? Plus, hear about the emergence of Walt Disney's first recurring cartoon character. All of that and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Julius the Cat and Alice, 1924


Episode 32 - Disney Bros. Studio

Walt had his contract from  Margaret Winkler signed and ready to go, but being unsure of how to proceed, he would turn to his brother Roy for help getting his new venture off the ground. He needed an office space, supplies, a camera but most importantly he needed animators. Would he find some talented artists or would he go it alone? What was the process he would use to create his combination live-action, animation vision? And would he finish them on time and to the standards his distributor was expecting? We'll answer all these questions and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Walt (right) and Roy (left) in front of their Kingswell Ave. studio.


Episode 31 - Roy Steps In

When Walt was in Kansas City, he had an animation company and no distribution. When he moved to California, he had acquired distribution but had no animation company. In October of 1923, with a contract in hand for his Alice films, Walt now had to figure out how he was going to produce the series. He turned to Older brother Roy for advice. Hear this story and more on episode 31 of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Roy O. Disney


Episode 30 - Alice Goes To New York

With Walt Disney settling into life in California, he received some news he had long been hoping for. A film distributor from New York had seen a reel of 'Alice's Wonderland' and wanted to negotiate a distribution deal. Who was the distributor? What were the terms of the contract? All this and more on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Margaret Winkler


Episode 29 - California Dreaming

When Walt Disney first arrived in Hollywood, CA in 1923, he knew he wanted to be in the movie business. He just wasn't sure exactly what he was going to do. He had not completely given up on animation, but it did take a back seat to his new hope of becoming a live-action director at a major motion picture studio. In this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast you'll hear all about Walt's first days and weeks in California, and the plans and dreams he began to piece together during that time.

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The original 'Hollywood' sign - Circa 1920's


Episode 28 - End Of The Line

Walt Disney put everything he had into his Laugh-O-Gram's animation studio. It was his dream come true in his early 20's. Unfortunately Walt's lack of experience showed. By summer of 1923 both Walt and his studio were at rock bottom. Would Walt stay in Kansas City and keep trying his hand with Laugh-O-Grams? Or, would he leave town in search of his next dream? Find out, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

Walt Disney behind his live-action camera - Kansas City, MO.


Episode 27 - Alice's Wonderland

By 1923, Walt Disney had hit rock bottom. Not just with his animation studio, but personally as well. Neither he nor Laugh-O-Grams had any money and Walt needed a hit cartoon badly if he was going to keep his dream alive and keep his beloved studio afloat. In what essentially amounted to a last ditch effort, Walt dreamed of a new series that would combine both animation and live-action in a way that had never been seen on screen before. Would it work? Or was it too little, too late... All this and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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A still frame featuring Walt Disney and 4 year old Virginia Davis from 'Alice's Wonderland' 1923


Episode 26 - Tommy Tucker's Tooth

Walt had the men of his studio begin work on their first official contract in fall, 1922. Though the contract was not exactly what Walt had hoped for, it was all he had and the men pushed forward. when financial troubles threatened to put an end to the work before it was completed, Walt Disney began to search for alternative ways of bringing income into his studio. One such way he accomplished this was to produce a film for a local dentist titled 'Tommy Tucker's Tooth'. Hear the story of how this film came about, plus more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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A still frame from the film 'Tommy Tucker's Tooth' - 1922


Episode 25 - Contract In Hand

In autumn of 1922, Walt Disney's fledgling animation studio signed it's first official contract for the delivery of 6 animations. The contract almost never happened though, and when it did, it was far from ideal. On this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast you'll hear the circumstances surrounding this contract and the plan Walt set in motion to fulfill his end of the bargain.

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Left to right - Walt Disney, Hugh Harman, Rudy Ising, and Ub Iwerks


Episode 24 - Short On Cash

In the summer of 1922, Walt Disney had finally found himself heading his own animation studio. It was a legitimate business, with real employees and an official work space. However there was one thing that Laugh-O-Gram Films Inc was short on... Cash. Without proper working capital and very little assets, Walt had to use his creativity and persuasiveness to fund his young company. All this and more on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

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Laugh-O-Gram's offices on the second floor - 1127 East 31st Street, Kansas City, Mo.


Episode 23 - Left Alone

In this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast, we'll hear about Walt's struggles in Kansas City after the departure of his family. Most of the Disney's headed out west in search of a milder climate, but Walt stayed behind to grow his young animation studio. Without family around Walt struggled to fill the void left from their relocation. The most notable family member, who's departure left an impact on Walt was his brother Roy. We'll also learn that it wasn't just Walt that Roy left behind either.

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Edna Francis and Roy Disney


Episode 22 - The First Fairy-Tales

Walt knew he wanted to branch out beyond his 'Newman Laugh-O-Grams' and begin a new series of animations based on well known fairy-tales. To set them apart however, he wanted to base these familiar stories in a 1920's contemporary setting. With help from his buddies, he set out to do just that. Would he succeed in making these animations a reality? Would he officially turn his animation "club" into a legitimate business? Find out on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

A screen shot from one of Walt's 'Fairy-Tale Laugh-O-Grams'


Episode 21 - Newman Laugh-O-Grams

Walt Disney's first commercial animations, his 'Newman Laugh-O-Grams' were a big hit in Kansas City in 1921. Unfortunately for Walt, their success did not translate into financial gain. Wanting to branch out and start his own organization, Walt began recruiting a group of co-workers and friends to join him in his new endeavors. Hear these stories and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

Walt Disney animating a 'Newman Laugh-O-Gram' film


Episode 20 - Walt Disney the Animator

After experimenting in the garage behind his Kansas city home for a few months, Walt Disney felt he was ready to create his own commercial animations. He conceived of a series of films he called 'Newman Laugh-O-Grams' with the hopes of selling them to the Newman Theater chain. He wrote, produced, and hand drew a 1 minute pilot reel of these Laugh-O-Grams in his make shift garage animation studio. Find out what happened, and if he succeeded in selling his animations to Frank L. Newman, in this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

In this garage, Walt Disney animated the first animations he ever produced


Episode 19 - Walt's Garage

While working at the Kansas City Film Ad Company, Walt Disney discovered something amazing, that would change his life forever... Animation. It was a new and exciting art form that allowed Walt to literally see his illustrations come to life. He became obsessed with it and wanted to learn everything he could about animation. After borrowing a camera from A. V. Cauger, Walt set up a makeshift studio in the garage behind his Kansas City Home and began immersing himself in animation techniques. Hear all this and more, on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

The Disney family home at 3028 Bellefontaine Ave, Kansas City


Episode 18 - Kansas City Slide Company

In early 1920, Walt Disney and Ub Iwerks were failing in their attempts to run their own commercial art operation. With no money coming in, Walt took a job working for a man named A. V. Cauger at the Kansas City Slide company, a company that specialized in film advertisements. Ub would soon join him there and the two men would become fascinated with a young and burgeoning art form that was about to take the entertainment business by storm. Hear this and more on this episode of The Uncle Walt Podcast.

Walt at work in the Kansas City Slide Company offices